Sunday, February 26, 2012

Honda Civic engine vibration fix

Hello people, 
Long time.. no post?? its all because of my laziness :D but this one is not about computer but about my car.
It is going on winters here in Delhi and my car started showing vibrations during cold start and it was really bad and vigorous while doing reverse and it use to go away after say initial 1-2 km run.
Let me tell you about my car, its 2007 make Honda civic (India) an automatic. 
Initially i thought that it will go away with time, might be due to something temporary but it was getting really annoying every morning and was not able to stand it any more so decided to get it fixed. Got to two car workshops(other than Honda authorized workshop) and they were not able to identify the issue and some said it might be the O2 sensor or the engine mount. 
Honda guys said it is the mount but from the naked eye there was no damage to engine mount and the cost they said was something around 10.5 K oops. This much of cost for car vibration it was something that i thought is really expensive and being a delhite, need help now as the cost was not at all satisfying :) So i went to Palika bazar car market (opposite to the Hayat) and from there got the engine mount replaced with just a self trust that the vibration is only because of engine mount. 
New engine mount cost me around Inr 3600 and Inr 300 as the labor charges and also got the front disk pads replaced(as it was due) which cost me 1500 more :) 
And my car is back :) 
Vibration completely gone and more effective braking now. From the service guy i cam to know that Engine mount was not damaged but got pressed (seems Honda civic engine is bit heavy for the designated mount and it is a common problem with civics in India). Please refer to pictures below. 

Engine is touching the mount completely(mount hydraulics not working, needs replacement)

New engine mount replaced (and now the hydraulics will eat the vibration coming from engine) and no more vibrations

Hope this gets as help to somebody required someday.

46 comments:

  1. Dear Mr Praveen. It was really helpful. I am also suffering the same problem from my 2008 Civic.

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    1. :) thanks for the comment.. at least it became somewhere useful to you.

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  2. Honda Civic has a problem with hydraulic mounts. i had to replace it first time in 2010 Dec (after around 23 months of use of a new car) and now I am getting it replaced once again. this is coming after 18 months. Also, the Honda dealership is haggling with me because they do not want to replace it under the extended warranty. Honda Civic is a very expensive car to maintain and people to should avoid all Honda cars altogether. Most cars these days ask for one service in a year while Honda asks for service every 6 montsh.

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  3. Praveen! Thanks to your post and the pictures I was easily able to diagnose my car. I live in Chicago... Has your driver side sun visor broken yet? Those have an extended warranty since they seem to break on most civics.

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    1. Hi con3784,

      My car visors are all ok, in-fact they still look new, havent heard this issue in Indian civics yet.

      -Praveen

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    2. thank Mr Parveen For this information even i am facing same problem can text me the name or number of the person or shop where i can go for this in palika bazzar

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    3. my email id is pstikka@gmail.com
      looking for engine mounting

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  4. Ohh common for a 14 lakh car civic is very cheap... I have honda civic and prime honda ppl are wonderful, they take care of your car like a family doctor takes care of your health.. best part is they suggest changing of parts only if it is required. infact sometimes it is like i say common change the brake pads and they r like why sir? why do you wanna spend 6 grands just like that they will easily go for another 15000 k.. what else do you want.

    to answer your ques abt hydraulic mounts.. they are the cheapest hydraulics in car market.. buy a skoda/VW and you will know that they define the word expensive..

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  5. Thanx a lot parveen Kumar....
    It was Really very-very helpful to me.... i was also suffering from the same problem,,After Reading this blog I am getting it replaced...
    Do u also change your front suspension bushes ????
    Any other Important Advice Or Tips For honda civic ?? I Have Automatic 2007 Model....

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  6. Hi Saurabh,

    Haven't replaced suspension bushes yet :) but am going to have a service soon in November and am a bit not satisfied with suspension response in recent time on some low class rough terrains... lets see what those people suggest... Will keep it posted

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    1. Hey Parveen..
      I want to ask you when turn up your music loud do you hear any vibration or doorpads rattle in front doors ..specially Music with a lot of thumping bass..sound like something knocking in the door....
      can you plz help me out ???

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  7. I just fix this today by myself, its not a hard fix if you got the right tools and the right floorjacks and stands. it is exactly like this picture now. before that my gap was right onto the black piece/mount now its higher and no vibrations.

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  8. this is the Do it yourself link if anyone need help

    http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/engine/300998-r18-motor-mount-diy.html

    hope you don't mind me posting this

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  9. Hey Parveen..
    I want to ask you when turn up your music loud do you hear any vibration or doorpads rattle in front doors ..specially Music with a lot of thumping bass..sound like something knocking in the door....
    can you plz help me out ???

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    1. Hi Saurabh,

      On high thumping bass yes i do here vibrations but i think that is very much okey.. nothing which worries me... and i rarely do that

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  10. I was planning to buy a used civic, and I heard about this problem in Indian civics. Thanks to ur post I now know how to check for it and that its not a major problem if I ever face it. One question though, is there only one problematic mount or all mounts are like that. Did you change any other mount? I suppose there are 3 mounts in total for engine and gearbox
    Thanks again.

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  11. till date just this was the only mount issue that i faced and fixed

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  12. Hi Praveen, I have the same issue and have to change the hydraulic mounting - could you please send me the shop's name n address - you said opp Hyatt n thats south Delhi, however Palika is in CP :) I am confused please help me out :) - Ved (ved_b@yahoo.com)

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  13. Hi Ved,

    Yes i am talking about a place called "Palika bhavan (not the palika in cp)" just opposite to Hayatt (after crossing the inner ring road).
    Its majorly occupied with car care dealers and shops.

    In downstairs, there is one shop which is very crowded and 90% of people buy motor parts from them (owned by Sardar brothers), i cant remember their shop name but it wouldn’t be that tough to find if you reach the place.

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  14. Hey, can i get a clear picture as to where the market is? i need to buy an engine mount for my Civic as well.....as there is too much vibration in my car's engine also. Please tell me where did you buy the engine mount for RS.3600/-.

    Waiting for your response.

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    1. Hi Nimish,

      Exactly the location is just opposite to Hyatt hotel on ring road (near bhikhaji kama place). Car market is also known as palika bhawan and is completely occupied with car parts and accessories shops and jam packed cars in maintenance mode.

      And you can get to the shop from where I bought mounts its in lower ground floor and shop is known as "sardar ji ke dukaan" for car parts.

      I hope am able to help you here else can communicate over phone.

      Praveen

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    2. Hello Praveen,

      I go the mounting replaced and also found the shop....thanx for your help.....but i still feel the same vibration in the steering and also the same noise inside the car. I checked the engine mount after consulting the pics that you have displayed above.....it all seems fine.....but can u suggest or have any idea why am i still facing this issue?

      Please do let me know.
      thanks and regards

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  16. I'm having the same issue. Vibrations in park, worsens in reverse, then somewhat goes away in drive. It tends to shake less after being driven for a little while though. What would the car warming up have to do with this decrease in vibration if it is the motor mount? Just trying to diagnose.

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    1. Hi Ryan,

      I use to think the same before it got fixed with mount. May be when engine does a cold start its amplitude of vibration is more and as it gets warm with run/drive, it decreases. You can ask the same from the garage guy and let us know if you get something tangible.

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  18. If engine mount issue erupt within 5 years after purchasing car, Honda replaces it under warranty, Honda has also sent circular regarding same to service centers.

    But service center people are reluctant to pass on this benefit to consumers.
    on team-bhp.com you can find many posts with mount replaced free of cost within 5 years. Just initalte talk with service advisor and let them know that you are already knowledeeable about this issue and Honda replacement policy.

    I am right now in process of getting refund of money honda charged me 2 years ago for mount replacement. they should have changed free of cost.

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    1. Thanks Prashant.. i didnt about that. Will ask Pearl Honda Gurgaon for that now

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  19. Hello Mr praveen. I have honda civic 2007 manual. I'm facing the same issue. Honda says its the outside hydraulic mounting and gave me an absurd price. You seem to have gotten it done in a fairly low price, would you point me exactly where did you got this done from in palika? Thank you for this post. Very Helpful.

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    1. Its the spare parts shop at the ground basement and there is always rush at the shop counter owned by Sardar brothers.
      I don't have their names but you can very well find them once you reach palika bhavan car repair market just opposite to Hayat

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  20. Thanks for provides great informatic and Nice Blog, this blog is very informative & valuable for me. I will wait for your kindly new information about Hero Honda Motorcycle Parts in Delhi

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  21. Hello Praveen, I too have Honda Civic 2007 AT and similar problem you faced with a bad engine mount. Since you installed aftermarket engine mount and not the original from Honda, I want to know which brand is it and is it still working without giving any vibrations again ? usually a new original one should last at least for 30K Kms. I am from Mumbai and I am getting NOK brand Japan for about 2200 now, is yours from the same brand ? Thanks for your post it is really very helpful to all Honda civic users.

    Aziz Abjani

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    1. Yes it was the same NOK and it worked for me for around 50K kilometers and then got to change it again :) thats life with Honda civic

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    2. Thanks for your feedback Praveen, I went to buy this NOK make from the local market yesterday and most of the dealers said not to buy this as it does not have any oil fluid inside it and hence it will not last more then 6 months, also it may not reduce the vibration altogether after installation. Have you installed the new one NOK again ? when ? and is it serving the purpose 100% without any vibrations ? if it (NOK) works for 50K without any vibrations then it might be well worth it. Your feedback will be highly valuable.

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    3. If most of the dealers are suggesting not to buy NOK then what are other options left for you.. because i didn't heard any thing like that here.
      last one (prior to current one which is installed in my car right now) did last 50K kilometers

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    4. Here 80% of the dealers are against NOK, I don't know if its a marketing gimmick, there are other ones available from Taiwan and China ranging between 2400-4400. I finally installed the Akiro brand from Taiwan at 2400 plus 400 for mechanic last week and the vibration is gone altogether and also the torque and pickup which was failing when the engine mount was bad has improved drastically. Hope this helps others too.

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  22. Thanx a lot sir.. it really helped me a lot..

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  23. Thanks all.. after reading ur comments I got mounting changed from palika bhawan, it costed me 2200+400..

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  24. Hi Praveen, 3 days back got my civic 2010 services from honda,the experience was pathetic the car is started vibrating while braking as per them the right front wheel is not moving and caliper is jammed,need ro replace the caliper and pins over all costing comes around 18K,please advice for economical solution.

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    1. Woohoo thats a lot of money..
      Am not sure if you have any history of hitting on RHS wheel... read my latest post here ( http://anaphoral.blogspot.in/2016/08/my-civic-and-some-very-stubbron.html )

      Am not sure where you put up... but in case you are in Delhi NCR, visit Palika Bhawan, R K Puram, New Delhi

      Get the brakes serviced they can also grind and clean the rotors and am sure the whole cost would not be more than 3.5K if you don't replace the brake pads.

      Honda Service don't look a things if its anything on brake they just ask for whole part(s) replacement.. and the cost goes 10 folds.. If you want i can share the number of the mechanic too.. but will certainly suggests to visit a better car repair market.

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  25. Hi Praveen, Very useful post and I hope many people gor the benefit from it.
    I have the same problem in my 20"8 Civic and having shown in west delhi, they say if I go for chinise part it will cost 2100 rs otherwise from 7-8000 Rs and if i go to handa service centre it will be 11000 Rs. Can you please suggest which one you went for in 3600 Rs and did your replaced mounting worked well?

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    1. Hello Fuzebox,

      Now I can't recall the exact manufacturer name but would expect to get this thing done in 5-6k.. Looking at the inflation

      Even in 7-8k costing are they providing Honda parts, I doubt that... Instead will suggest you to have a price negotiation from the sardar ji shop and get it done at a lower price and does these prices includes labor...

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